Ulip or MF+term insurance?
Well depends on where you sit….
Let me tell you what the ‘new’ Online Ulip sales brigade was trying to tell me…..
- Sir there is a small upfront charge – spread over a long time it does not matter.
Me: 0 vs anything. I do think ‘zero’ is smaller, I would stay there.
Salesman: The amc charges are ONLY 1.35% p.a vs 2.5% for a multi cap or large cap mutual fund
Me: What have you been smoking? I have ETF of Hdfc sensex and the amc charges are 0.05% p.a. So mathematically I am right.
SMan: Sir the switches are tax free – this is not available in mutual fund
Me: True, I am a small investor I prefer investing Rs. 25000 pm in an equity fund and Rs. 12500 per month in PPF
Sman: You have still not answered my question of switching
Me: I am dumb. I do not switch, so this is not applicable to me. To those to whom it matters, they can consider.
Sman: I am sure you have NO answer to this. Ulip is taxfree. MF is taxable.
Me: Are you telling me that Ulip will be tax free for the next 30 years? And by the way I can invest Rs. 25000 a month i.e. Rs. 3L per annum. In about 3 years time I will withdraw Rs. 1L (tax free profit) and put it back…for the next 25 years. This will keep my product tax free. Little laborious, but tax free for sure.
SMan: Sir this combines life insurance. Oops I forgot I have enough cheap term life insurance. Max was cheaper than your company when I compared term insurance. I just spoke to Max and they assured me that my wife will get the claim. Or I will become a ghost and chase Abhinav Rahul and Manik Nangia. They are surely scared of ghosts – I just found out. So please do not give me this gyaan about your company being more reputed. In my books you are not.
Sman: Sir I need to make a living.
Me: Now that is a great argument. I do not have an answer. My bias stays.
trekkersid
A bit confused with —
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Me: Are you telling me that Ulip will be tax free for the next 30 years? And by the way I can invest Rs. 25000 a month i.e. Rs. 3L per annum. In about 3 years time I will withdraw Rs. 1L (tax free profit) and put it backā¦for the next 25 years. This will keep my product tax free. Little laborious, but tax free for sure.
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Why would you book a profit after 3 yrs and then reinvest it… Instead, just leave the unrealized gain as it is and allow it to compound uninterrupted and thus defer tax.
Am I missing something?
Mohan
@trekkersid you are missing tax-gain harvesting
Mahavir Chopra
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Salesman: The amc charges are ONLY 1.35% p.a vs 2.5% for a multi cap or large cap mutual fund
Me: What have you been smoking? I have ETF of Hdfc sensex and the amc charges are 0.05% p.a. So mathematically I am right
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Of course ETFs will be more efficient in cost than a fund manager managed investment.
It would be good to see an objective comparison of Direct Mutual Funds with Direct ULIPs.