I have always been a silent reader of this blog – and have never commented. So here is my rejoinder to the ‘Ideal young couple’ kind of a post that Subra did a few days ago. It took me a long time to write this post, and may not be of great quality, but here it goes. Subra of course has the full authority to alter / changes the composition, but I am sure he will not alter the facts.

We, my husband and me, are to the Manor born so to speak. Our grandfathers had big houses in South Bombay, and our parents are SoBo kids for whom Bombay ended at Dadar, and the only reason to go to the ‘Suburbs’ was to take a plane to travel. Most of our relatives are from So Bo and that is the background. Our grandfathers and then our parents had the luck or opportunity to buy big houses (even by non Mumbai standards) with spare bedrooms, and my father in law has a house with servant quarters too 🙂 . I am a single child of my father (who was a single child of his parents!) and my husband has a sister much elder to him and settled abroad.

All this background helps – it meant that when I was born my dad had opened a bank account and at age 3 he had opened a PPF account which has a nice big sum accumulated today, and it is nice to see it bulging. Our parents had been surrounded by friends by the brokerage community and many of today’s who’s who have been visitors in our house for some event or the other. Like Subra my father and father in law lost a few known people in the Mumbai bomb blast (ha it took us time to accept the word Mumbai). The portfolios of my father in law and my father had a lot of similarities, but my father in laws portfolio got a super booster in terms of Infosys, Wipro and TCS. All three made some seriously big money – and I would attribute it to our neighbor who was also a stock broker. All the portfolios in our houses – which one day will belong to our only daughter – is within spitting distance of 10 digits, and our annual household expenditure – including vacations, festivals, weddings (phew!!) is much lesser than the equity dividends that we receive. Seriously large surplus is left even from the dividends.

Now let me also give some numbers:

  • I am a CA working in an MNC and I am extremely well paid, and I guess it was luck and being at the right place at the right time
  • My husband is an Engineer MBA from a top Indian school and doing well in the BFSI space
  • My parents were in the Jewelry business and most of their investments were in equity and some real estate too
  • My inlaws were in the brokerage business for sometime and then in the 2000s retired from the business
  • My inlaws portfolio is a super blue chip portfolio with Asian Paints, Siemens, HuL, ITC, Cummins, Supreme Industries, Hero Honda, Wipro, Infosys and TCS.
  • My parents did well too with Colgate, PnG, Reliance, Gillette, Bajaj Auto, Cipla, Bharti Airtel, LnT, Hdfc, Hdfc bank, Nestle, Cholamandalam, Wendt, MRF, LMW,  etc.
  • Me and my husband have continued with the same broker that my in-laws use and his word is final.
  • Many of these shares have been in our portfolis since the ’70s, and some go back even to the ’60s
  • Our broker’s son who is looking after the business is a couple of years senior to my husband and they do exchange notes
  • My husband is brilliant in finding what is wrong with companies – and he should be in NPA identifying committees !!!

Now for some things that our parents did and we have copied:

  • Never sell equities for ‘spending’
  • Our incomes are far greater than our needs, and we are going to be net investors for a very long time
  • We are rich by any world standards, and our daughter will be even more rich even if she does not earn money
  • It is very important that me and my husband do not do anything foolish – we need to be a Dravid if we cannot be a Sachin
  • We have been very lucky that we never worried about ‘realized income’ -a word I learnt from Subra
  • We drive nice cars, take vacations but stay dirt cheap – our club membership of 2 So Bo clubs ensures good rates all over
  • Our big expenditure is on servants, but my H and I are trying to be ‘independent’ of servants
  • We are financially free in our 30s, but I guess we were financially free (for a frugal living) even when we were born
  • We do use public transport for going long distances – but that is more to save time and not as an economic reason
  • I am building a more Indian management centric portfolio – so we have bought Lupin, Dr. Reddy’s, Sun Pharma and Biocon
  • Our parents have GSK, Pfizer vs our India centricity
  • we do not have much investments in foreign currency – except the small mutual funds which invest abroad
  • we have bulging PPF accounts, but not too much (as a %age) of debt instruments, but yes we do have Tax free bonds
  • We are lucky that we have had no hospitalisation, bad habits (racing, betting, etc)
  • My father in law is an avid trader too and is a very successful trader. My father is a pure investor
  • I am a very careful analyzer of balance sheets and just love our family talk about equities – my mothers hate me !!
  • I can go on and on..but 1000 word limit set by Subra is here!! So I stop…
  • I have stuck to Subra’s rules – no names, no locations…but the shares were a huge temptation so succumbed
  • Mutual funds in our portfolio is a rounding of error, so names do not matter, really
  1. Congratulations to the couple.

    Thanks Subra. These articles are great motivator and also provide confirmation that I am on right track. Hope to reach there soon :).

    I am in 30’s, 1st generation investor. Earning good salary, learning new things to remain relevant in Industry and Investing via MF’S and PPF for last 8 Years. Still have a long way to go, but at least on right path.

    Regards
    Shobha

  2. Dear Subra Sir,

    Very inspiring story. As a common man like to know from this couple, what is their contribution to society when luck favored them this much so that it can be a motivation for other rich couples. They may be doing a lot.

    Babu

  3. Subra,

    My story if it fits in the series : am 37 years old, MBA from IIM and a boutique M&A banker. Family background lower middle class but both parents worked in banks as clerks – so got solid grounding in education and work ethic at the cost of many other things. Lost my father when I was 18 and brother was 11! mother took VRS due to health reasons a year after that – so when I went to IIM – we had a monthly pension of 5k and a rent from the house parents built of 2k ! – studied on a scholarship and bank loan.

    Started out of IIM with a grand annual salary of 6 lakhs and in 13 years I make 8 figures… my parents had started investing with their tiny surplus (reads 100’s of Rs a quarter maybe!!) – I built on that so today our family portfolio is in 8 figures with roughly 60% equity, 30% real estate and 10% debt. Mind you, brother pursued an expensive airline pilot career and I spent ~ 50 lakhs on that (always believed one needs to support a career choice) – he is finally settling and already taking baby steps in investing in MF’s. Wife came from a similar family background and was a equity trader – but quit when we had our kid – now planning her own business venture (funded through savings we started specifically for that when she quit 5 years ago)….Direct equity is a small portion of our portfolio -due to time constraints, employer restrictions etc. Debt in the portfolio is the maxed out portion of EPF for me and some funds in debt funds for emergencies.

    Car is 8 years old, Term insurance, health insurance all in place, we take 1 longish family vacation a year and save about 50% of our post tax income every month – bonuses nearly go towards saving, 5 % our annual income goes towards charity and increasing…. MF portfolio has returned 16% IRR till date and probably would have been more if I didnt panic at the thought of losing my job during 2008-2010 and using more of my funds to payoff the housing loan instead of investing!!! so its been an interesting life and thanks for all the inputs I got from reading your blog… its a boring step up SIP system for me now till I find time to do direct equity…

  4. @Deepak – Could you name the key funds of your MF Folio? Approx Duration of your SIPs?

    @Babu – Get well Soon buddy..

  5. @Babu … Looks like you are fond of reservation and want every rich person to do charity for those who don’t work.

  6. @ JK : my oldest SIP is about 12 years, most are 8 and some are 5. Mind you as I wrote above, annual bonuses, random savings also keep getting ploughed in. Main funds : HDFC Midcap, ICICI discovery, bluechip, quantum and BNP Paribas equity was in hdfc prudence but shifted to balanced.

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