Anna Hazare vs Congress
Well Anna Hazare is a tough nut to crack…and we have seen that:
Manish the great spokesperson of Congress says: Anna should stand for an election if he wants to do something for democracy, OR HE IS ANTI democracy.
I will let my brilliant readers decide between Manish, Kapil Sibal, PC and Amika Soni on one side and M/s M C Chagla, Hidayatullah, Nani Palkhiwala, Ramnath Goenka…who contributed to India’s democracy.
Kapil Sibal says “Anna and Congress are on the same side” – sure the side of mankind vs animals I think! He goes on to say that Congress is doing it the right parliamentary way and Anna is using the unconstitutional way and saying ‘use only my draft’. Kapil we know what kind of a lawyer you are, thank you, but NOBODY, NOBODY in the country believes you if you say ANYTHING. yOU ARE JUST one more joke in the stand up artist’s kitty.
PC – have you heard his language when he is not on camera? Choicest…..really choicest…
Ambika Soni says ‘nobody is above law’ gimme a break lady. you are a farce. Amazing joke from you, thank you maam…
Simple now blame MMS..make him a scapegoat so that the crown prince can be fitted into the MMS chair…
Sambaran
I am doubtful about the need of Jan Lok Pal bill. My thoughts are best expressed by Nitin Pai here: http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2011/08/14/faq-why-is-anna-hazare-wrong-and-lok-pal-a-bad-idea/
I would be thankful to anybody who can provide me a link/article describing why Janlokpal is necessary on top of existing setup we have.
Krishna
“Kapil we know what kind of a lawyer you are, thank you, but NOBODY, NOBODY in the country believes you if you say ANYTHING”
when ever I see him in the TV, switch off and go outside. he is the most irritating politicians in our country.
Vithal N. Satwik
Hi Krishna,
I have stopped watching these so called “Independent” news channels. Actually they are the mouth pieces of the Govt and the ruling party of the day.
As Subra has suggested many tines, I watch channels which air old Hindi film songs.
Ravinder Makhaik
For power these guys will do anything but Anna has demonstrated the power of silent protest – it has shaken up the largest democracy in the world.
Earlier – a certain Mahatma Gandhi, turned the then worlds greatest power on its head by the sheer simplicity of non-violence.
Beware of the scorn of a simple man.
It is in a crisis that India’s democracy reacts and only for the second time in Independent India’s History are the honourable men & women in parliament out to launch impeachment proceedings against a sitting judge of a High Court who is facing corruption charges.
It could act as a precursor to weeding out the corrupt and criminal elements from public space.
Jsan
I have seen some news channel asking questions to Team Anna, if you look carefully they will always question as if they are speaking on behalf of Government. Has any news channel ever called any top politician and asked question what is the logical reason for rejecting the Jan Lokpal demands? You could have forecasted their intentions when they refused to Video record the Jan Lokpal discussion and also refused to release the Audio recording.
pravin
i get my news from independent blogs .no newschannel is worth watching to be honest. for international news i actually prefer al jazeera and Russia today ! what a shocker,but it is true .
pravin
also,why is voting and the party process held so sacred? it has nothing to do with democracy.it is a mere ritual -just as much as feeding ganesh idols with milk is a spiritual practice.
Panna
I just change the channel when ever Digvijay Singh,Manish Tiwari and Kapil Sibal speak. I just can not accept what they speak and also the tone in which they speak.
I really feel ashamed when i have to say we are ruled by this people.
I think India is the only democratic (so called)country in the world which is ruled by a single family(directly/indirectly)for so long time.
Suresh
http://aamjanata.com/rebutting-nilim-duttas-article-on-anna-hazare/
For those who want an answer to status-quoists and establishment defenders like Nitin Pai.
The new Business Standard under Sanjay instead of Ninan and its completely pro Congress reporting. In today’s paper two articles and one editorial is anti Anna. Never seen so brazen a political slant in a business newspaper.But then when you have been the media advisor for the PMO how much fairness is expected?
Sambaran
@Suresh,
Thanks for the link. I went through the article.
Most part of the blog is rebutting another author’s article against Anna Hazare. That is not what I am interested in.
However towards the end a classification is made regarding type of corruption.
Type 1: People like us forced to pay bribe for government tasks. Type 2: Massive looting of national resources.
The author (vidyut) seems to be saying that JanLokPal is targeted towards Type2 corruption.
Suresh, do you agree with my above interpretation?
Lest Subra gets angry, I am planning to move the rest of the discussion to Vidyut’s blog itself. Thanks Suresh once more for giving the link. I still am not convinced about lokpal though.
aditya
Dear Subra,
such a reassurance to hear from you on mr. Chagla and one and only Nani Palkhiwala sir.
Would urge you to share more insights from these people based on your exp. other than books like we the people, we the nation and Indias priceless heritage, not much information is publicly available on Nani.
Thankyou once again
Suresh
@Sambaran.
My point is not whether the Jan LokPal is the right one. My point is the people who oppose this, especially the media, invariably belong to the establishment and have the most to lose. Take NDTV and barkha Dutt. Till the Radia tapes it was seen as a holy cow , though I never trusted their leftist propaganda.Once Radia tapes were out the true bias of the leftist media was out. I would like ALL media to put in Bold Capitals their political view before each article so the average reader can filter the bias and take what is left. I suspect nothing much will be. Hence my point on Business Standard and Sanjay Barua. ALL BS articles on telecom are anti-Tata. Clearly Sunil Sethi/Jain(forget which Sunil) is in the pay of Bharti/Vodafone/Idea (who incidentally share infra costs on common towers).
Similarly Nitin Pai is representative of anti Anna bias, disguised as ‘objective’ criticism. These are people who have a cosy relationship with establishment (ruling party/opposition/bureaucrat).
As many people have commented, if the English Media says something , the truth is invariably 180 degrees away.
P.S: think Subra likes spirited debates!!
amol
@Sambaran
YOUR VIEWS ARE AGAINST PRINCIPLE OF DEMOCRACY AND PEOPLE OF IT.
I HAVE STUDIED THAT ONLY THOSE WHO ARE CORRUPTED ARE *NOT* SUPPORTING THE JAN-LOKPAL.
I HAVE PERSONALLY STUDIED JAN-LOKPAL BILL AND ITS **MUST** AND WILL BRING 100′S OF POSITIVE CHANGES IN OUR COUNTRY.
JAI HIND….!
Swami
Manish Tiwari asking Anna Hazare to contest elections so that democracy can be upheld!! What a joke.. He should peddle that advise to Dr Manmohan Singh.. who is a back door entry to RS from Assam!! Their own leader has not contested elections..
Sreekant
Professional accomplishments tend to give people a tinge of arrogance in other walks of life too. Good lawyers (PC) think they are also good economists etc. Once they are accomplished, they are audacious enough to make shocking statements (zero loss in 2G affair etc) and think people are foolish enough to believe them. And then you have Montek who has been predicting (or wishful thinking?) for the last two years that inflation will come down in the next 3 months. He almost seems to be ordering inflation to fall. And he reels out so many statistics (bumper Kharif crop etc) to support his wishes. Its time these people knew where the public places them.
Panna
THE CURIOUS CASE OF RAHUL GANDHI
Rahul Gandhi: “I feel ashamed to call myself an INDIAN after seeing what has happened here in UP”.
PLEASE DON’T BE ASHAMED OF U.P. YET
Please don’t be ashamed of Uttar Pradesh yet. Congress ruled the State for the Majority of the duration Pre Independence to Post Independence.. from 1939 to 1989 ( barring the Periods of Emergency.. Thanks to your Grand Mom Indira G. and a couple of transitional Governments)
8 out of the total 14 Prime Ministers of India have been from UP, 6 out of those 8 have been from Congress…
I think your party had more than half a century and half a Dozen PM’s to build a State…
The Reason Mulayam Singh, subsequently came to Power is because your party wasn’t exactly Gandhian in their dealings in the State.. So May be If you look at in totality the present chaos in UP is the outcome of the glorious leadership displayed by Congress in UP for about 50 years!
So Please don’t feel ashamed as yet Dear Rahul.. For Mayawati is only using the Land Acquisition Bill which your party had itself used to LOOT the Farmers many times in the Past!ý
WHY DIDN’T YOUR PARTY CHANGE THE BILL WHEN IT WAS IN POWER FOR SO LONG?ý
Not that I Endorse what Mayawati is doing.. What Mayawati is doing is Unacceptable..
But the past actions of your party and your recent comments, puts a question mark on your INTENT and CONSISTENCY.ý
YOU REALLY WANT TO FEEL ASHAMED
But don’t be disappointed, I would give you ample reasons to feel ashamed…ý
You really want to feel Ashamed..?
First Ask Pranav Mukherjee, Why isn’t he giving the details of the account holders in the Swiss Banks.
Ask your Mother, Who is impeding the Investigation against Hasan Ali?
Ask her, Who got 60% Kickbacks in the 2G Scam ?
Kalamdi is accused of a Few hundred Crores, Who Pocketed the Rest in the Common Wealth Games?ý
Ask Praful Patel what he did to the Indian Airlines? Why did Air India let go of the Profitable Routes ?ý
Why should the Tax Payer pay for the Air India losses, when you intend to eventually DIVEST IT ANYWAY!!!
Also, You People can’t run an Airline Properly. How can we expect you to run the Nation?
Ask Manmohan Singh. Why/What kept him quiet for so long?
Are Kalmadi and A Raja are Scapegoats to save Big Names like Harshad Mehta was in the 1992 Stock Market Scandal ?
Who let the BHOPAL GAS TRAGEDY Accused go Scot Free? ( 20,000 People died in that Tra gedy)
Who ordered the State Sponsored Massacre of SIKHS in 84?
Please read more about, How Indira Gandhi pushed the Nation Under Emergency in 76-77, after the HC declared her election to Lok Sabha Void!
(I bet She had utmost respect for DEMOCRACY and JUDICIARY and FREE PRESS)
I guess you know the answers already. So My question is, Why the Double Standards in Judging Mayawati and members of your Family and Party?
I condemn Mayawati. But Is She the only one you feel Ashamed for?
What about the ones close to you? For their contribution to the Nation’s Misery is beyond comparison.
You talk about the Land b eing taken away from the Farmers. How many Suicides have happened under your Parties Rule in Vidarbha ? Does that Not Ashame You ?
THE 72,000 CRORE LOAN WAIVER
Your Party gave those Farmers a 72,000 Crore Loan Waiver. Which didn’t even reach the Farmers by the way.
So, Why don’t you focus on implementing the policies which your govt. has undertaken, instead of earning brownie points by trying to manufacture consent by bombarding us with pictures of having food with Poor Villagers….
You want to feel ashamed. You can feel ashamed for your Party taking CREDIT for DEBITING the Public Money (72,000 crores) from the Government Coffers and literally Wasting it…
You want to feel ashamed.. Feel ashamed for that…
WHY ONLY HIGHLIGHT THIS ARREST?
Dear Rahul, to refresh your memory, you were arrested/detained by the FBI the BOSTON Airport in September 2001.
You were carrying with you $ 1,60,000 in Cash. You couldn’t explain why you were carrying so much Cash.
Incidentally He was with his Columbian girlfriend Veronique C artelli, ALLEGEDLY, the Daughter of Drug Mafia.
9 HOURS he was kept at the Airport.ý
Later then freed on the intervention of the then Prime Minister Mr.Vajpayee.. FBI filed an equivalent of an FIR in US and released him.ý
When FBI was asked to divulge the information, by Right/Freedom to Information Activists about the reasons Rahul was arrested … FBI asked for a NO OBJECTION CERTIFICATE from Rahul Gandhi.ý
So Subramaniyam Swami wrote a Letter to Rahul Gandhi, ” If you have NOTHING to HIDE, Give us the Permission”ý
HE NEVER REPLIED!ý
Why did that arrest not make Headlines Rahul? You could have gone to the Media and told, “I am ashamed to call my self an INDIAN?”.ý
Or is it that, you only do like to highlight Symbolic Arrests (like in UP) and not Actual Arrests ( In BOSTON)ý
Kindly Clarify…..
In any case, you want to feel ashamed, Read Along…ý
YOUR MOTHER’S SO CALLED SACRIFICE OF GIVING UP PRIME MINISTER SHIP in 2004.
According to a Provision in the Citizenship Act.
A Foreign National who becomes a Citizen of India, is bounded by the same restrictions, which an Indian would face, If he/she were to become a Citizen of Italy.Jý
(Condition based on principle of reciprocity)
Now Since you can’t become a PM in Italy, Unless you are born there.
Likewise an Italian Citizen can’t become Indian PM, unless He/She is not born here!
Dr. SUBRAMANIYAM SWAMI (The Man who Exposed the 2G Scam) sent a letter to the PRESIDENT OF INDIA bringing the same to his Notice. [READ LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT IN ANNEXURE -3]
PRESIDENT OF INDIA sent a letter to Sonia Gandhi to this effect, 3:30 PM, May 17th, 2004.
Swearing Ceremony was scheduled for 5 PM the same Day.
Manmohan Singh was brought in the Picture at the last moment to Save Face!!
Rest of the SACRIFICE DRAMA which she choreographed was an EYE WASH!!!
Infact Sonia Gandhi had sent, 340 letters, each signed by different MP to the PRESIDENT KALAM, supporting her candidac y for PM.
One of those letters read, I Sonia Gandhi, elected Member from Rai Bareli, hereby propose Sonia Gandhi as Prime Minister.
So SHE was Pretty INTERESTED! Until She came to know the Facts!
So She didn’t make any Sacrifice, It so happens that SONIA GANDHI couldn’t have become the PM of INDIA that time.
You could be Ashamed about that Dear Rahul!! One Credential Sonia G had, Even that was a HOAX!
THINK ABOUT YOURSELF.
You go to Harvard on Donation Quota. ( Hindujas Gave HARVARD 11 million dollars the same year, when Rajiv Gandhi was in Power)
Then you are expelled in 3 Months/ You Dropped out in 3 Months…. ( Sadly Manmohan Singh wasn’t the Dean of Harvard that time, else you might have had a chance… Too Bad, there is only one Manmohan Singh!)
Some Accounts say, You had to Drop out because of Rajiv Gandhi’s Assassination.ý
May be, But Then Why did you go about lying about being Masters in Economics from Harvard .. before finally taking it off your Resume upon questioning by Dr. SUBRAMANIYAM SWAMI (The Gentlemen who exposed the 2G Scam)
At St. Step hens.. You Fail the Hindi Exam.
Hindi Exam!!!
And you are representing the Biggest Hindi Speaking State of the Country?
SONIA GANDHI’s EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS
Sonia G gave a sworn affidavit as a Candidate that She Studied English at University of Cambridge
[SEE ANNEXURE-6, 7_37a]
According to Cambridge University, there is no such Student EVER! [ SEE ANNEXURE -7_39]
Upon a Case by Dr. Subramaniyam Swami filed against her,
She subsequently dropped the CAMBRIDGE CREDENTIAL from her Affidavit.
Sonia Gandhi didn’t even pass High School. She is just 5th class Pass!
In this sense, She shares a common Educational Background with her 2G Partner in Crime, Karunanidhi.
You Fake your Educational Degree, Your Mother Fakes her Educational Degree.ý
And then you go out saying, ” We want Educated Youth into Politics!”
Letters sent by Dr. Swami to EC and then Speaker of Lok Sabha are in ANNEXURE 7_36 &7_35 RESPECTIVELY
Contrast that with Gandhi Ji , who went to South Africa, Became a Barrister, on Merit, Left all that to work for South Africa, then for the Country….
WHY LIE ABOUT EDUCATIONAL CREDENTIALS?
Not that Education is a Prerequisite for being a great Leader, but then you shouldn’t have lied about your qualifications!
You could feel a little ashamed about Lying about your Educational Qualifications. You had your reasons I know, Because in India, WE RESPECT EDUCATION!
But w ho cares about Education, When you are a Youth Icon!!ý
YOUTH ICON
You traveled in the Local Train for the first time at the Age of 38.
You went to some Villages as a part of Election Campaign.
And You won a Youth Icon!! … That’s why You are my Youth Icon.
For 25 Million People travel by Train Everyday. You are the First Person to win a Youth Icon for boarding a Train.ý
Thousands of Postmen go to remotest of Villages. None of them have yet gotten a Youth Icon.
You were neither YOUNG Nor ICONIC!
Still You became a Youth Icon beating Iconic and Younger Contenders like RAHUL DRAVID.
Shakespeare said, What’s in a Name?
Little did he knew, It’s all in the Name, Especially the Surname!
Speaking of Surname, Sir
DO YOU REALLY RESPECT GANDHI, OR IS IT JUST TO CASH IN ON THE GOODWILL OF MAHATMA?ý
Because the Name on your Passport is RAUL VINCI.
Not RAHUL GANDHI..
May be if you wrote your Surname as Gandhi, you would have experienced, what Gandhi feels like, LITERALLY ( Pun Intended)ý
You People don’t seem to use Gandhi much, except when you are fighting Elections.ý( There it makes complete sense).
Imagine fighting elections by the Name Raul Vinci…
It feels sadly Ironic, Gandhi Ji, who inspired Icons like Nelson Mandela ,Martin Luther King Jr. and John Lennon, across the world, Couldn’t inspire members of his party/ Nehru’s Family, who only seem to use his Surname for the purposes of FIGHTING ELECTIONS and conveniently use a different na me on their PASSPORT.
You use the name GANDHI at will and then say, ” Mujhe yeh YUVRAJ shabd Insulting lagta hai! Kyonki aaj Hindustan mein Democracy hai, aur is shabd ka koi matlab nahin hai!ý
YUVRAJ, Itna hi Insulting lagta hai, to lad lo RAUL VINCI ke Naam se!!! Jin Kisano ke saath photo khinchate ho woh bhi isliye entertain karte hain ki GANDHI ho.. RAUL VINCI bol ke Jao… Ghar mein nahin ghusaenge!!!
You could feel ashamed for your Double Standards.
YOUTH INTO POLITICS.
Now You want Youth to Join Politics.
I say First you Join Politics.
Because you haven’t Joined Politics. You have Joined a Family Business.
First you Join Politics. Win an Election fighting as RAUL VINCI and Not Rahul Gandhi, then come and ask the youth and the Educated Brass for more involvement in Politics.
Also till then, Please don’t give me examples of Sachin Pilot and Milind Deora and Naveen Jindal as youth who have joined Politics..
They are not Politicians. They Just happen to be Politicians.
Much Like Abhishek Bachchan and other Star Sons are not Actors. They just happen to be Actors (For Obvious Reasons)
So, We would appreciate if you stop requesting the Youth to Join Politics till you establish your credentials…
WHY WE CAN’T JOIN POLITICS!
Rahul Baba, Please understand, Your Father had a lot of money in your Family account ( in Swiss Bank) when he died.
Ordinary Youth has to WORK FOR A LIVING.
YOUR FAMILY just needs to NETWORK FOR A LIVINGý
If our Father had left thousands of Crores with us, We might consider doing the same..
But we have to Work. Not just for ourselves. But also for you. So that we can pay 30% of our Income to the Govt. which can then be channelized to the Swiss Banks and your Personal Accounts under some Pseudo Names.
So Rahul, Please don’t mind If the Youth doesn’t Join Politics. We are doing our best to fund your Election Campaigns and your Chopper Trips to the Villages.
Somebody has to Earn the Money that Politicians Feed On.
NO WONDER YOU ARE NOT GANDHI’S. YOU ARE SO CALLED GANDHI’S!!
Air India, KG Gas Division, 2G, CWG, SWISS BANK Account Details… Hasan Ali, KGB., FBI Ar rest..
You want to feel ashamed..
Feel Ashamed for what the First Family of Politics has been reduced to…
A Money Laundering Enterprise.
NO WONDER YOU ARE NOT GANDHI’S BY BLOOD. GANDHI is an adopted Name. For Indira didn’t marry Mahatma Gandhi’s Son.
For even if you had one GENE OF GANDHI JI in your DNA. YOU WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN PLAGUED BY SUCH ‘POVERTY OF AMBITION’ ( Ambition of only EARNING MONEY)ý
You really want to feel Ashamed.
Feel Ashamed for what you ‘ SO CALLED GANDHI’S’ hav e done to MAHATMA’S Legacy..
I so wish GANDHI JI had Copyrighted his Name!
Meanwhile, I would request Sonia Gandhi to change her name to $ONIA GANDHI, and you could replace the ‘R’ in RAHUL/RAUL by the New Rupee Symbol!!!ý
RAUL VINCI : I am ashamed to call myself an Indian.
Even we are ashamed to call you so!
P.S: Popular Media is either bought or blackmailed, controlled to Manufacture Consent!
My Guess is Social Media is still a Democratic Platform. (Now they are trying to put legislations to censor that too!!)
Meanwhile, Let’s ask these questions, for we deserve some Answers.
For we are all Gandhi’s. For Bapu is the Father of the Nation!
To know more, Try looking for Dr. SUBRAMANIYAM SWAMI. He is the reason today 2G SCAM is being Investigated!!!