Indians are under insured?
It is customary to say ‘Indians are under insured’ see the Americans. Of course right. Indians are under insured – says who? the Insurance industry! Remember WB saying ‘never ask the barber whether you need a haircut’. L O L.
So is it true that Indians are under-insured?
The answer is not so easy. Indians are surely wrongly insured. Most of them have LIC’s endowment policies. They stink. The returns are more to please the government. LIC is a big investor in government bonds – at rates decided by the Government of India. This is a sub optimal solution. The more endowment policies that we buy, the better it is easy for the government – easy money for Raja, Kalmadi, Holy cow, …..
Do you think the Chairman of LIC will ever have the guts to tell his super boss (Finance Minister) what rates of interest YOU AS A POLICY HOLDER SHOULD GET? Never.
Let us come to the private sector players. Just like LIC they also have products where the distributor’s margin is 55% – let me repeat – 55%. Then there are products where the margins are 25%. Of course there are some products which have 2%. Do you need even a penny to guess what they sell? If you picked 2%, I am happy to have readers in 2nd standard!
Then of course there is Medical insurance. Let us face it, you cannot be prepared for everything. Cancer treatment costs Rs. 30 lakhs, a fire accident can cost Rs. 20 lakhs. A heart attack – surgery costs Rs. 5 lakhs. Yes Cancer is likely to overtake heart attack as the biggest killer soon.
Then there is something called ‘critical illness’ insurance – it is supposed to pay when an illness mentioned in the policy strikes. I made a huge attempt at understanding the policy. Unless if you are a great lawyer, underwriter, actuary, doctor or a judge, do not make that attempt. I was not convinced that it will pay. The wordings are too complicated. ‘Heart attack arising out of a pain in the shoulder’ – ‘attack leaving a permanent …on the heart’, ‘paralytic attack leaving an impact on the brain’, or ‘kidney failure means both kidneys have to fail’ – to me (and my poor doctor friends!) it did not look like ‘critical illness’ it looked like ‘surely dead’ ! So I was (and am) convinced that these policies will not pay except with a High Court intervention (remember the ombudsman has a jurisdiction of Rs. 20 lakhs and this figure will not change for the next 430 years, making a mockery of the ombudsman!).
Then there is life insurance sold to non earning people (housewives) and in the name of the children. These policies are another set of useless policies. Insurance is supposed to compensate for a financial loss created by an earning money. The life insurance for a housewife (and an earning husband) is justified only when she is insured AND HER PARENTS ARE THE NOMINEES – in case they are dependent on her. Makes no sense if she is not earning, and the policy is taken with her husband as a nominee. However India is full of such policies.
What am I driving at?
Well go and take a term insurance on the life of the earning member – and be liberal here. Take enough to cover expenses for the next 10-12 years, big capital expenditure – kids education (if they get the feeling that there is not enough money, they stop dreaming, and that would be sad and a big mistake), major repairs, big and small mortgages, etc. If it means 10 X your annual income, do so.
Take a medical insurance for say Rs. 5 lakhs – if you want a higher cover for say Rs. 10 lakhs, take Rs. 5 lakhs from 2 companies – like New India, Oriental…AND MAKE SURE YOU FILL THE FORM TRUTHFULLY. A policy taken with lies is such a stupid expense it is not worth talking about. It will not pay. Stop cheating your wife! The insurance company just will not pay. You will look stupid.
As you build wealth, and your kids start earning, throw away the term insurance (anyway take it only till your age of 55 – for most normal people)….
this is MHO on the insurance that a person needs.
Muthu
Very well written, as always with a style! Do you have any latest updates on health insurance portability? If yes, request you to share the same.
Srinivas Muthadi
Both insurance and medical industry is a big frauds. Hospitals charge high if the patient is insured and make patient undergo lots of expensive investigations. Insurance guys on their part try not to honour their obligations under some guise.
kalyan
Read an article recently on web which asks to insure house wives also. The cost of replacing the services of housewife by hiring someone for cooking, house maintainance and care of kids should be considered income and that should be covered. Interesting logic as those services are not going to be cheap in India going forward. Ofcourse you can marry some body else whom you like and who is willing to marry a middle aged man with kids and stay as housewife 🙂
rajatq
In case of medical insurance, how can we take two policies, i heard insurance companies ask for original bills in such cases, so how can we get reimbursed from 2 policies for the same disease?
Ajith
Sir,
As you rightly put it, as far as life insurance is concerned, only a Term Plan, is the sole requirement of an earning member with depended family members. But an average insurance adviser seldom highlights about the same to his prospects, for reasons best known to the adviser himself. Even if a philanthropic adviser hint about the TERM PLAN, most of his prospects decline the same on two grounds: that (1) Taking such a product is inauspicious & (2) Nothing is given back if one survives the policy period. In the subject of insurance, even the highly qualified act as illiterates.
Paul
“Then there is life insurance sold to non earning people (housewives) and in the name of the children.”
Housewives and children are not earning. But there is a replacement cost associated with them. If in any unfortunate event your wife passes away, you may be forced to hire the service of a maid or someone to look after your kid.
Second marriage is an option – provided you are still young! 🙂
Please clarify
Arindam Bhattacharyya
Excellent!!! I remember in your post sometimes ago you asked to take term insurance but in quarterly mode premium payment. Would you please elaborate why it should be taken in quarterly mode.Thanks in advance,Sir.
Ramesh
Dear Subra,
I cannot thank you enough for such a wonderful analysis. Clear, concise and correct.
subra
Housewives need insurance..of course yes. Then you need pet insurance – if a pet dies you need to buy a new pet. You need television insurance….why everything you need insurance. If you are visiting the zoo there is a possibility that a tiger will maul you. So you need ‘death by mauling of a tiger’ special insurance….
You only need insurance for big ticket items. If a person cannot afford to hire the services of a servant for what his wife was doing, it is an insult to his wife! A housewife needs life insurance if she is the sole daughter of a couple – and they are likely to be dependent on her at some stage. This may be difficult to imagine, but may be needed.
Other than that..NO A HOUSEWIFE DOES NOT NEED INSURANCE. Stop listening to these guys – they will invent enough causes and stories…ASK THEM HOW MUCH LIFE INSURANCE THEY HAVE!
Sachin
“if they get the feeling that there is not enough money, they stop dreaming, and that would be sad and a big mistake”
Subra sir, that’s the most powerful statement you have ever made!
It has shaken me to the core. I need to increase my term insurance.
One problem – I find it difficult discuss term insurance with my wife. She will discuss investments but simply refuses to talk about death. Term insurance, I have to take on my own. Do you come across such situation?
Regards,
Sachin
subra
with so many people buying insurance, i wish i were an insurance broker!!
yes Sachin…this is a problem. Simple, do not tell her. Sensible lying makes a lot of sense. A friend flies his parents J class – and tells them it comes from his flying miles – simple lie so that they travel more comfortably – somebody carries the hand baggage, somebody puts them in a car, receives them at the door – and he can afford it. I do not think such a lie hurt anybody
bumb ka gola
Subra,
you say that insurance should be 10X the annual income.
Should it be income or expenditure. A friend asked me this once. He has his own house, plus another investment in property, wife working in a GoI dept, independent parents and two young kids. He earns much more than he spends. He feels that he needs insurance on multiples of expenditure rather than income.
What do you say?
prabee
These people who say insure wife for replacing a maid should not take insurance for them self and ask their wife to choose new husband once he passes away….to sell things they say all kind of things
pravin
human beings are so afraid of talking about death. term insurance is “death insurance” and not life insurance-but we have euphemistically modified the terminology.
why indeed should anyone insure against life.? it is against the chance of premature death that one needs to buy insurance for the dependent
Rakesh
Subra Sir,
Excellent post, very well explained.
Can you please share your experience as to which Term Plans are good after LIC.
Kind Regards,
Rakesh
Paul
Hi Subra,
We are all interdependent – But we are not monetarily calculating the value of goods and services provided by a wife. We take it for granted that she is not having any financial value associated with her as she simply sits at home.
If it is only for earning dependent – why do we have car insurance, crop insurance and home insurance? Yes, we are having pet insurance too as my pigeon costs more than my annual salary!
Is it simple mis-selling? Or an act of risk management. What you talked here was about only “daily bread” earner and loss of his health.
I also have another question – When a child and his father passed away in an unfortunate road accident, the mother got more insurance compensation for the child than from that of her husband? Doesnt it imply that children need insurance too? Or am I terribly missing something?
I am not posting it for argument sake – but to get a clear idea. Also not in for a simple dog fight, but for an intelligent discussion. I don’t sell insurance nor I am a financial adviser.
Just want some clarity in the idea
Kalpesh
“(if they get the feeling that there is not enough money, they stop dreaming, and that would be sad and a big mistake)” …Well said..touched the bottom my heart. This is super duper post..
One request…if you can put up an article on what term plans and Medical plans are worth looking at. Nowadays, as per IRDA it is mandatory for GI companies to cover mediclaim business, but lot of these companies are not trust worthy of long term survival.
Krishna
Hi Subra,
I like this article the way you have written. I too have one policy on my wife which is paying Rs.25000 premium per anum. I convinced my wife that there is no need of insurance for house wife and i should have the maximum cover since i am the only one earning for the family ;). we need lot of financial education for india. people are more ignorant on taking policy. my father-in-law’s insurance agent will run away if see my face 😉 because they don’t like who knows what is insurance
– krishna
pravin
“When a child and his father passed away in an unfortunate road accident, the mother got more insurance compensation for the child than from that of her husband? Doesnt it imply that children need insurance too? ”
it is insane.unless the child was a prodigy and was already huge income on which the parents were dependent,it makes no sense at all to even assume that the child ,ceteris paribus,has more chance of dying than the older parent.