If I have Rs. 10 crores, I will feel rich…
this is reposted because i have written a sequel to this…and that will appear in a couple of days…
When a young enthusiastic kid (she reads the blog and finds it embarrassing if her name is used!) came up to me and said ‘Sir, if I have Rs. 10 crores in my life, I will feel rich’ to me it was a signal of poor understanding of compounding! One needs to know the impact of having Rs. 10 crores today and the impact of having it 30 years later!
Let me explain. This kid is 23 years of age has a nice degree in finance and a good career waiting ahead of her. She will inherit a little money from her parents, a house in Mumbai (say current price of Rs. 1 crore), marry a similar profile guy and start life reasonably well. This is perhaps the second generation that is starting with the parents providing a head start instead of asking for support in their old age.
So with no ‘pay back’ that they have to do, they can aggressively invest. Assuming that the house appreciates by 10% per annum (guessing) the value of her house will go from Rs. 1 crore to about Rs. 32 crores by the time she is 59 years of age.
Let us assume she does a SIP in an equity fund and her investments look like this:
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She has not saved a dime till now, but assuming that she starts a SIP of Rs. 10,000 a month slowly taking it up to Rs. 100,000 a month by the time she is 54 years of age, and assuming the interest rates mentioned in the table, this will also accumulate about Rs. 10.25 crores-this on an investment of Rs. 1.35 crores!
That is the power of compounding.
Will she be able to make these investments? It looks like a breeze. There will be a time in life when she will take a break for having and bringing up children, but I am assuming that her husband’s investing will more than make up for the gap. Her husband will pay for all the household expenses and will also be able to invest some more money on his own.
This brings us to the question – What will be her salary when she is making these kind of SIPs?
Well she will earn about Rs. 4.5 L to start with, earn about Rs. 13L at the age of 35 years, earn about Rs. 25 lakhs at the age of 45 and will retire on a salary in excess of Rs. 45 lakhs. All these are per annum rates, so post tax SIPs ranging from Rs. 10,000 now to Rs. 100,000 around retirement time is surely affordable.
The conclusion is simple:
-she will have a net-worth in excess of Rs. 25 crores by the time she retires…and she will require more than that for her retired life.
COMMENTS: She has read my book, she is smart and she is doing a SIP of Rs. 10,000. As long as the ‘men’ in her life do not interfere with her money management skills, and she does not fall to the conventional wisdom ‘buy real estate – God does not make it anymore’….she will have her Rs 50 crores, not just 10!
Ramesh Desai
Respected Sir,
I am 43 yrs old male having Rs. 4.00 lac of annual income. I want to seek your advice on personal finance & ready to pay the required consultation fee. Kindly respond.
Regards,
Ramesh Desai
Bijapur, Karnataka
Cell: 9886602794
aditya
How about inflation Subra?
How about emergencies and insurance coverage ?
Sambaran Mitra
I found one mistake. 1 crore, compounded over 35 years at a rate of 10% will grow to 28.1 crore. So the house should be worth 28.1 crore and not 32 crore.
However, I had to take a few “leaps of faith” while going through the article. I can not count them as mistakes.
1. The calculation of final net worth based on varying SIP-amounts over varying interest regime is tough for me. I opened the excelsheet but found it difficult to do the calculation. Hence I had to do a ‘leap of faith’ and accept Subra’s 10.25 crore as the final amount.
2. If one has to live in the house, it is not correct to consider that as part of net-worth. So I am not sure how the kid is going to be 25crore+ networth.
3. The final statement that ‘she will need more in retired life’ is again a leap of faith. How much we need in retired life depends on how much we spend. This article never mentioned about kids spending habit. So again, I had to do a leap-of-faith to accept the last statement.
ritukant
good you told me..!! I was planning to take it for Express Money…
😉
prabeesh
She will need more?
pravin
you’ll always get wealthier than yesterday if you can live far beneath your income.the specific investment strategies will need to be seen from time to time and place to place.if someone did a SIP in the US markets starting in 1999,he is probably sitting just where he started (after inflation).the retirees in the US now moving to treasuries are getting yields of 0.01 or negative returns.
thats a bad situation to be in.
just hope the situation here doesnt move into that direction
Rudy
what about the power of compounding on 10 Cr if she has them today or near future…
T K VANI
Well ,
1.1 crore compunded for 34 years works out out to 25.54 crores.it works out to 281024368 for 35 years and not 32 crores.
2. You have calculated the SIP of 1.35 crores for 29 years while she will have 34 years till retirement. Her investment will be 15240000 assuming the same interest table the periodicity of SIP’s has to be 6 years and her corpus from SIP will be 69567909.
The Total will be 95115586
KalpK
Atrocious mistake: Growth rates of equity funds
KalpK
Atrocious mistake: Networth at retirement cannot be only 25 crores as her house cost projected itself is 32 crores!
T K VANI
OOPS ! SORRY GOT THE TOTAL WRONG.The correct figure is 325044607.(House 255476698+Sip 60567909)
Assumption made: Interests are compounded annually.
T K VANI
oops! Sorry There was atotalling mistake.The Total would be 325044607
House 255476698 + SIP 69567909
Assumption: Interests are compunded annually
T K VANI
oops! Sorry There was a totalling mistake.The Total would be 325044607
House 255476698 + SIP 69567909
Assumption: Interests are compounded annually
T K VANI
oops!Sorry ,totaling error .The total is 325044607 .House 255476698 + sip rs. 69567909
Assumption made Interests are compounded annually
Kalpesh
Start age and End age are not correct. 24-29 = 6 yrs, 30-35=6 yrs. Only the last one is correct 54-58.
subra
Clearly she is mathematically challenged. She has no clue about the impact of inflation. The mistakes are – the economy of no country has shown such a robust growth over 30 years. Secondly real estate cannot grow at 10% p.a. if inflation in the economy is falling. Real estate will go up, but only for the professional, not for the amateur.
She will get ‘advise’ from her parents – equity markets are risky, save in ppf, buy some nsc….etc. all these will slow down the rates of compounding.
HOWEVER she will have much more than Rs. 10 crores, however she will need much more – and that will make her more ‘deprived’..LOL. Psychological, not financial – main kya karoon?
Gurdial
“Psychological, not financial – main kya karoon?”
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My kids & wife(to some extent me also) are living proof of lifestyle inflation. As income goes up, so does discretionary spending- Lcds, ipad,SUV etc etc.
Anubhav
mistake was that she meant 10 crores NOW!
If she has 10 crores now she can keep 9.5 crores in FD and play with the rest in stocks and businesses.
And that way she WILL be surely rich.
Simple.
subra
update she has started a SIP for 10k and it is doing well…the fund she chose was Hdfc equity and the commencement date is 1 apr 09…